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Anyway, they feature a character named Mary Callahan who is badass incarnate. The narrator, who has a bit of a hard-on for fat women in general, falls madly in love with her, and is devastated when she marries someone else. Also, in the original Peter Pan although not in any of its various film incarnations, Tinker Bell is chubby.

On the other hand, the book spent a tad too much time describing the clear-headed feeling they were getting from starvation. Yes, that is because of the brain control they were pushing past, but it also mimics the euphoria that can come with starvation in real life in a way I found disturbing.

I still like the series but that gave me pause. Page 22 0f my rage diary, columns I was a compulsive reader as a kid — I re-read most of my books, burying myself in the stories to escape from the hyperbole warning Dickensian bleakness of my childhood. I only read Blubber once, because once was enough for that book — I weighed five pounds more than the hideously fat girl, that passive lump — I was five pounds more hateable than Blubber ever was.

That book made me hate myself so much, made me feel like I did deserve all the teasing, that I was lucky to not get teased and marginalized more than I already was. There were fat twins in the books- girls- unattractive and stupid, the butt of some cosmic joke on their slim, attractive parents. The twins were presented as being so unappealing, so hard to look at, so unpleasant to be around… until the end of the book, when they were presented as newly-thin, lovely and witty, as if their former fatness actually presented itself as a mental disability as well as a physical eyesore.

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How many people came to believe that because of Judy Blume? He specifically describes eating as an act that makes people stupid, and reinforces the idea that the anorexic heroine and her boyfriend are not only prettier, but cooler and smarter than everyone else around them. She is one of those characters you would hope to emulate when the world around you is less than kind. If you have not read this book, you should. The best thing about having a kid is hanging out in the kids section of the library again.

Tamora Pierce has written so many books since i got out of middle school! A lot of these tweener books seem to be about model kids who are scheduled every minute. Plus the parents in LfB are pretty much paradies of, well, me. Would you mind if I post your description to the whatwasthatbook community on LiveJournal and see if anyone there can identify it? I should hunt it up again and see if the recipes were any good. She had extensive facial scarring. And damn, I forgot about those twins in Wifey. That was pretty bad, although IIRC, their mother, who was thin, was portrayed as somewhat of a shallow jerk and they were as grumpy as they were partially in reaction to that.

One book that immediately came to mind is Alt Ed by Catherine Atkins. On the other hand, while she loses weight its accepted that she will never be skinny or thin, she gains a friend, she becomes active about fighting back against fat hate, and she starts to like herself and her body by the end of the book. Its a good YA book in the sense that while some characters are a little flatter than others, none are one dimensional.

As for Sarah, she does not get reconstructive surgery, and at the end of her Angry Management story she is starting to accept her scars. Also, for those who want romance books with FA characters click here. Ooh, another recommendation is Fat by Richard Grant. While the portrayal of the anorexic girl as shallow and a little suggestible was problematic, it sort of rang true reading it — it seemed as though she was absorbing the attitudes of her environment, and part of her recovery was meeting the celebrity and realising how dull and perpetually high he was.

She points out that at the fat camp, no salt is included in any of the food, and she smuggles in some of her own. It talks about how he first gained a little weight as a result of going into middle age and his body changing, and how he dieted it away, more came back, the cycle continued, to the point that he was now uncomfortably fat in that it was an inconvenience in daily life, getting dressed, etc.

I did really enjoy it as a teen though, and lent it to a friend of a similar age about 17 who also liked it. We read it aloud before bed and she said it was unbelieveable that kids were so mean to another girl because of her weight. I on the other hand found it so realistic I would cry while reading it. I wanted to hear more from the fat character because I hated that it was another novel from a popular kids prespective. Fat Chance was a book I read in 6th grade and while it does have kind of a decent ending if I recall correctly the things I learned from that book were less than positive.

A lot of my thoughts when I had my eating disorder really mirrored the character in a book because she was Jewish, about my age, and bullied. How could everyone have missed the mature, sensitive and acidly funny books by Isabelle Holland? Nothing new to add on fat kids in YA books. There are also really joyful, happy scenes about cooking and eating. Proceed with caution. Now I must read them all! I think DWJ wrote the disgust to express the nature of Charles, more than the nature of fat. The whole book places quite an emphasis on physical appearance as seen from the POV of the various characters, and I found that pretty realistic when compared to my own adolescence.

Yay, the redemption of Lydda! That was icky to me. In general, I find that Diana Wynne Jones sends out both positive and negative messages — but I always feel that the views expressed are those of the characters, rather than the author. Realistically, few of us grow up and go through life without any doubts about our bodies, and so nor do her characters. But — and this is really key for me — her fat characters are always real people. She takes as much care writing them as she would with any character.

She writes fat characters as bad guys, good guys and everything in between. That, to me, is immensely valuable. Mostly, I want to read about Real Fatty. Height and weight are given stats on most character profiles if you go to the Marvel website. I agree with the original post that fat is often seen as a shorthand for negative characters; Vernon Dursley in the Harry Potter books is the first one to come to mind.

Not too sure about Blubber though — the fat girl in it Linda? Though I grew into quite a plump teenager so that might have something to do with it :. As a fat kid who looked remarkably like the illustration of the fat character, Elsie eyeroll , I remember feeling hurt by the characterization of Elsie as being lazy and stealing food. I was gross. While I understand some of the larger points of some of the posters bemoaning the lack of any agency on the part of Linda in Blubber, I believe many readers are rushing to judgment when it comes to this aspect of the book.

Life is hard, and very rarely do kids fight back heroically. Blume was simply telling a story, and to expect her to somehow deify the heavy girl in this story is perhaps a bit much. Ultimately, I would venture that most readers of female young adult fiction are not fat, and that Blume is simply writing to her audience. So maybe there is an even greater need for young adult fare for fatties. Though one has to wonder whether such fiction will do too much to make children at those ages more complacent about their health. In an era of fast food in the schools, drastic cuts in physical education, and immobile Internet-based lifestyles, they could do more harm than good.

I grew up rather heavy from about 3rd grade on, until hormonal changes in my later teens led to a slimmer me—thankfully, since kids are brutal. The protagonist, Kaylee Tanner, is sixteen years old, brown, slightly above average height, and fat, and I was trying to portray her fatness as simply the way her body is, and her, her family, and her friends being happy with it. It turns out the singing, swimming and seafood are Plot Points.

It was adorable. These were short picture books, which would be easier to memorize and to read over and over again out loud than a chapter book.

I loved that she described Cimorene as being able to look men in the eye, rather than looking up at them through her lashes. Also, I would totally recommend those books. Not only are they very funny, but they have very intelligent female characters and characters become who they want to be, not who other people think they ought to be. And oh! Has anyone else read Also Known As… Sadzia! The Belly Dancer! When her mother forces her to go to a fitness class with her at the community center, she stumbles into a belly dancing class where all the dancers are fat, as belly dancers are supposed to be.

It was the very first FA I was exposed to. Adults have the luxury of choice when it comes to their bodies, and their purchasing and diet choices, while children seldom really do. Illogical and contradictory much? Neither do I. Neither, I suspect, does anyone else on this blog. I love i. LilahMorgan— My apologies! Yes, I meant Connie. Atmosphere, I love that book! As a teenager it made me awfully happy to read that. I also really liked the fact that the main characters are Jewish — I otherwise read a lot of British and Australian YA fiction growing up, and that book was one of the few where the people were anything like me.

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And that would be wrong. Because, you never know, having an interesting fat character in a YA book might just possibly end up outweighing no pun intended the messages that kids hear from every other media source and most interpersonal interactions, and make an otherwise naturally thin kid decide to grow up to be OMG DEATHFAT!!!

Were my peers smaller than I was? If you were really a fat child, then you would understand that being fat is not a lifestyle. Children are children, and deserve to feel good about themselves regardless of weight. So, double score! Upon rereading it, I also liked that her mother recognized her own body issues and how they affected her relationship with her husband. Also, every time I read this book, I practice my hip lifts when I think no one is looking. I was plump as a teen and slimmed down when the whole sex-hormone deal evened out. No choice on either body-size event. That was her lifestyle choice.

My oldest friend is a fat woman who was a fat child and a fat baby, but was raised on the same diet as her pencil-thin brother. Her lifestyle choice when she became an adult was to continue to eat food like everybody else. And cry extra hard when her dad died because her relationship with the man was eternally fucked up by him pressuring her to diet her entire life. All those fat hollywood stars celebrating their size, rejecting diets for FA. So much encouragement to be fat! If you really cared about kids health you would realise that most of the stuff that is widely believed about teh evil fat!!

How come haters like connie are happy to accept that people can be naturally thin, but not that they can also be naturally fat? Why not?

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That can have… consequences. I am quite well-read, and I did a lot of reading early in my childhood. Obviously this is my own problem, but from discussing it with other people, I can state that other people do share it. Why is it necessary to state that one read Dickens as a child when many people read YA novels through adulthood? Disclaimer: I have a whole heap of issues with C. On the other hand, I will always love this quotation, from a speech that he gave on the subject of writing for children:.

For I need not remind such an audience as this that the neat sorting-out of books into age-groups, so dear to publishers, has only a very sketchy relation with the habits of any real readers. Those of us who are blamed when old tor reading childish books were blamed when children for reading books too old for us. No reader worth his salt trots along in obedience to a time-table. Perhaps not the main point, but a prominent secondary point.

If you can manage to avoid it, do ditch the shame of reading Jane Austen at the age when most people who like it at all start to like it. Rowling grew dramatically as a writer from there. Dudley changed from fat to beefy and muscular and was still every bit as horrible, and later still he has redemption completely unrelated to his physique. Slughorn, who you could certainly argue is a negative portrayal of a fat character.

But consider that while he is very flawed, he is, in the end not just one of the good guys, but the only redeemable Slytherin. Also, unless the classic lit read in childhood involved fat-neutral or -positive characters, it seems doubly unrelated. Kudos to her for not telling me not to read it. So for me the point is not that I was precocious so much as voracious. I was the weird smart kid long before I was the fat, zitty teenager, and I think that made me more prepared for it. I forgot I had intended to throw in a Mitch Hedburg quote there. I like her heroes and heroines I think in part because body size is but one of many issues, and skinny is no panacea.

Close to Harriet? On East End? Way upthread there was a bit of chow chow, which veered towards a bit of snobbery towards YA fiction. Re: reading precocity and elitism. Literacy seems to have contradictory values attached to it; I have made a list of things people have said to me about reading. I get frustrated and defensive very defensive, in fact when reading and literacy are pinpointed as things to criticize because oh, boy, have I taken shit for being a reader over the years. Most of the PhDs I know are teachers.

The good ones like listening to students, for example, because they learn something new every day. I moved to my town in January last year. But yea, verily, I will now, since this thread has given me a YA Festival of Reading to look forward to. I especially want to read the Belly-Dancing-Drummer-Prom one.

And more Diana Wynne Jones. I should be allowed to speak about my experiences if I happen to care to, and the fact that it makes somebody else uncomfortable is not a reason to say I had better shut up. I am trying to take away your special snowflake status. Attributes of my self are not about you and I do enough hiding and not-mentioning-it to keep myself employed. Still do. There is a lot more YA fantasy these days.

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Still not enough sci fi. And I do catch myself forgetting that I have things easier than others in terms of things like race and geography. I think what I was trying to get at was that it was sort of a sanity anchor for me. I was responding to the ideas that Helena responded to as well as Helena herself. My comments were specifically focused on the statements made by the commenter making sweeping generalizations regarding YA fiction and also to keep the thread on track. I am really sorry if my responses have made you feel that way.

While intention hardly matters, I want you know I did not intend for you to feel hurt or silenced by the discussion. Again, it was definitely ableist on my part NOT to consider neurodiversity when forming my comment, and I certainly apologize for that. What the HELL? So cut it out. Bagelsan, agreed. Please refer to the comment policy, okay. Is it really peculiar of me, or Bagelsan, to interpret your statement as being directed at me? But I will wait for AnthroK8 to clarify before I assume intention. I found the statement interesting, not controversial.

I was not speaking to you directly or about your experiences. That might help cut down on some of the confusion. Despite that, among readers, people can be and are given shit for not reading precociously enough. I went to an all-girls school, there was a lot of gender-policing and weight-policing going on, and as far as I remember I was never bullied for my weight lucky me! Grafton — I read back through the thread and can see why you read it as you did, even though I read it differently. LilahMorgan — basically, what you said.

When I read the thread, I took something different from it than Grafton and the others did, and I think I read it in the way you meant it to be read.

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But equally I can now see how it could have been read a different way, depending on the context you bring to it. My [off YA fatness topic] comment was me rabbiting down the byways of Literacy Privilege. But aside from that, I think? I am totally on board with your reminder. A Secret Garden: Wherein the characters get nicer as they get plumper.

Or plumper as they get nicer. Acceptance of the different capabilities of others. The value of friendship. Am I right in thinking most hobbits were described as plump? And some of the dwarves are fat as well, Bombur in particular. A little girl is raised in the city by her timid, skinny aunt. Then aunty has to go nurse her ailing sister, and skinny timid Betsy goes to hte country cousins… oh the horror, leaving hte city. The aunty comes back, still skinny, still timid.

All she needs is spelling help, not weight loss. I loved Understood Betsy! Which is a pity, because Dealings with Dragons was one of the best books I read growing up. Grafton: Thanks. I will try to figure out how to Ning. It may take me a couple of days last batch of paper drafts from the semester have just arrived, and I really ought to turn them around so people can revise…. Secondly, can anyone help me find the title of a YA book I picked up and had to put down a while ago? She then rants about bubblegum lipgloss and kisses her dreadlocked, football-star boyfriend. I remember vaguely enjoying it as a teen.

Sirius Black who while having redeeming features is every bit the selfish bully that Dudley Dursley and his father are — and he tried to coast on his good looks as a youth. But her devotion to the Dark Arts, and to the Dark Lord, causes her basic nastiness to come to the fore, much as with Voldemort himself. The Malfoys: Lucius, Narcissa, Draco.

All blond, all thin, all rich, all snobbish, all cowardly — though Narcissa and Draco prove to be capable of desperate bravery on occasion. Remus Lupin who is shown as somewhat weak-willed, especially as a teenager, and so understandably desperate to be accepted that he looks the other way when Sirius, James and Peter are cruel to Severus Snape. Albus Dumbledore: Tall, thin, and quite the manipulator, under a surface mask of artless bonhomie.

In fact, his belief in his own superiority leads to tragedy when he is a much younger man — though he does turn away from a bad path as a result. Severus Snape: Thin, greasy, bad-tempered, cruel, with a sharp wit that few find appealing. Dark Arts devotee, at least in his youth. Automatically suspected of being evil because of his unattractiveness, Alan Rickman portrayal notwithstanding. The Marauders — James Potter, Sirius Black, Remus Lupin, and Peter Pettigrew — spent their youths tormenting him simply because he was a safe target for them, being hated by nearly everyone.

And yet he is capable of great honor, great love, and great self-sacrifice. Lord Voldemort aka Tom Riddle, Jnr. Unlike Sirius Black, he is utterly devoid of caring or a conscience. A true sociopath who has no ability to truly connect with any humans, which leads him to literally make himself inhuman in his quest for ultimate power. Yet beloved of the author and a man of strong character. Molly Weasley: Chubby like her spouse, a true spitfire, particularly in defense of her family. Lost two brothers in the first war on Voldemort; she works to keep a brave face about this, and about the dangerous things her spouse and children do, but her anxiety about their safety is underlined by the Boggart incident in Order of the Phoenix.

Professor Sprout: Unabashedly fat, nurturing woman, very good with the younger students — can bring out gifts in Neville Longbottom that he never knew he had. Neville Longbottom: Plump, blond, shy because his magic took a long time to manifest. Is now a surprisingly decent chap and gets on reasonably well with his cousin Harry. Vernon Dursley: More meaty than fat, like Hagrid. Unlike Hagrid, a real jerkoff — vying with Umbridge and Voldemort for nastiest person in the book. Horace Slughorn: Short, rotund, fond of creature comforts, vain, cowardly — yet possessed of a conscience that does cause him to do the right thing, and unlike many Slytherins very much willing to recognize and reward excellence shown by non-Slytherins and even Muggle-borns.

Think of a Horace Rumpole with a bit more money and connivery, and a bit less native bravery. Phoenix Woman — thanks for that list. I have read other opinions of the HP series that described it as fat-phobic because of Dudley, but I distinctly remembered other fat characters who were likable, and thin characters who were sly and despicable. It does seem that when it comes to fat people stereotypes, we get the warm, comforting sometimes jolly fat person see Weasleys or Hobbits or we get the greedy, piggish fat person see Dudley.

Not much in between. Then when we look at thin stereotypes, we get elegant and restrained OR cruel and controlling. I think in our time and place, we are still coping with these old archetypes of the fat cat and thin miser. I do believe we eat differently and eat different foods than our ancestors, and so there is less truth to these characteristics than, perhaps, ever. Even in the fat suit he looks thin. As far as book-Neville is concerned, his fatness is pretty much in passing, and not at all the source of his lack of confidence.

On characterization in general, she constantly stresses the point that actions and choices define character, rather than appearance, skill, knowledge, social class, etc. Yeah, and Charlie too, no? Yay, genetics. And yeah, I sound crazy but I can usually tell them apart. As I said, I write fiction. All the best.

My frame is a 14 minimum. Just found this awesome post about a long list of YA books dealing with overweight MCs… and how the covers are totally wrong. I could be mis-remembering. I tried googling it but all I got were sites about foetal blood testing. Here it is. On the other hand, I oog over body-policing people for low body weight, and I would hate to foster that in the kids I love. Now when we read these books we notice how crappy the fat characters are, but they are still valuable because they present children as complex and manipulative and engaging in power struggles instead of mischievous scamps.

Fat Chance was pretty messed up. It definitely suffered from the syndrome that plagues many YA books- everything gets wrapped up really fast at the end. The protagonist, an African-American young woman, is fat. She feels a sense of self-loathing that is almost palpable — connected not just with her weight, but with getting her period and just generally being a corporeal entity with this embarrassing BODY.

The book was pretty explicit that she was fat because she was spoiled, lazy, had no self-control, and regularly gorged herself on things like lard. Then she is forced to eat meager rations and do hard labor exercise , and in the meanwhile learns Self Control, and then loses weight. They get it enough everywhere else. I would really like to see more diversity in films, tv and books. Being different is automatically the premise of the show. That gets tiresome. But good for writers trying to present this issue in a better light.

LilahMorgan, glad you mentioned Pierce and Jones, too of my faves. I think the Chrestomanci Chronicles too are good in that area—his wife is plump and powerful. Someone above asked for a FA book for a four year old, and I found a wonderful book for one of my nephews this Christmas. The Mom is very fat, but you can only tell from the pictures. No comment at all is made about her fatness. Pretty pictures too.

I heartily second the Tamora Pierce books. Turns out the genesis of the plague is someone trying to get thin quick via magic, which goes horribly wrong. I avidly buy all her newest books. I am so waiting for the newest Beka Cooper! They had adventures and real moral dilemmas to consider. Personally, I have a catagory of books I call good fluff. And the books I find least readable are the ones who try to be literary without a good story as a vehicle. This book fucked me up, big time.

It just really traumatized me that fat was equated with either death or the death of anything enjoyable in your life. And I journaled very heavily during my 8th grade through senior year of high school. I remember writing an entry in which I literally wrote that I would rather put a gun to my head and pull the trigger than be fat. There is a character in that movie who is quite overweight but her weight is only brought up a handful of times.

But then again, this is a fairly non-mainstream movie, so if you have a chance, check it out. Which makes him less clumsy, since he has self-confidence. Skip to content. Share this: Twitter Facebook Reddit. Like this: Like Loading Published by Lala. Published December 7, Horrifying books, looking back on them….

But feel free to remember other points about it that I may have forgotten…. I owe LM Montgomery a debt of gratitude for that. I have to admit I liked the Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants books. That is beyond ridiculous. Oh, and Harriet the Spy was a fat kid, though not a lot was made of it in the book. Honest to god, I cannot recommend this book enough. Laura Ingalls Wilder describes herself as stout as a little french pony.

Dystopian sci-fi in which adolescents are surgically altered on their 16th birthday to become thin and pretty… Sounds like my high school days in the San Fernando Valley. YA stories tend to be so terribly two dimensional. Wow, way to trash a whole field at once. Thanks for this thread, snarkysmachine! Oh, absolutely! I remember that too now.

How effed up is that? I loved a Fistful of Sky, but read it as an adult. I have a 4-yo daughter and this is all so depressing. WTF can I give her to read? Disregard what I said earlier. Scarlett Oh, my gracious, thank you for Alanna! Angus Bethune! Yay- thank you- this made my day, on a day that really really needed it. This is why I love books. I get to draw my own mental pictures. Thank you for this. LilahMorgan, lf, Meems — Anyway, I remember in that scene that she weighed something like 90 or 95 lbs in fifth grade.

Antifat messages hurt everybody. Scarlett, Sounds like a fantastic book! Katia And the antifat messages — oh, they were like a bit of unexploded ordinance that had landed in my psyche. I loved Wise Child and Juniper too! I wish I were Cornish so badly. All are available at amazon. If anyone reads this and knows the book, please let me know ; Everyone made fun of the boy in school for being fat.

I have to remember that while Isabel enjoys heavy strokes and scratches, Jezebel tenses up and glares at me when I try to do that with her. She is independent and defiant. Once I had to drive the three of them across the southern part of England because I was moving. Two minutes away from my old home she cleverly pissed through the front door of her carrier onto the car seat.

So I let her out of the carrier. When we stopped at a rest stop, she darted out of the car. I went into full panic mode, but after she looked around and realized that she had no idea where she was, she climbed right back into the car. We spent a good part of the trip with her sitting on the dashboard while the other two sat and yowled unhappily from their carriers. It was a very, very, very long trip…….. With her dark face and piercing stare, she makes even play look like serious business.

Anything with water in it cannot be left where she can access it. Amazingly, the glass remained intact but there was water all over the place. Water bowls have to be heavy ceramic or glass. She is totally fascinated by stainless steel water bowls, no mater the size, they will be moved around and often dumped upside down. Interesting that she is so fascinated with water.

Madame stole my heart. She was a homeless cat in Inverness, Al. She definitely had tortitude. Once my wife gained her trust and she started coming around to eat every day. Eventually we let her in our home, had her spayed and she enjoyed for 4 years sharing our home with us. She would divide her time between sleeping, eating and playing with us and hunting for chipmunks outside.

Eventually she got very close to me, and became my buddy. She would wake me up at am, when she was indoors, in order for me to watch her eat. If I came and left, she would come get me and would not eat until I came back. Eventually getting up at A. We loved her. They had a cat and dog, and we thought about giving Madame to someone, but that idea was quickly shot as depression gripped us with the idea of leaving her behind. So we took her, and she adapted to the dog and other cat. Unfortunately, allergies began to torment her to the point where she was very ill at times.

She was a small cat, with beautiful eyes, and weighed 8 lbs.

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After the allergies got a hold of her she became very ill. We took the best care we could of her, but she went down to 4. She was allergic to everything in south Florida. I took her to her vet a least 2- 3 times every week, to try to figure out what else was wrong. She was not suffering in any pain, but she had bouts of dizziness that we took care of with medication. Through all of this she remained a playful cat with me, and always eating with me, and of course waking me up at all times of the morning so I could feed her.

Unfortunately, on Feb 9th , she had a massive heart attack and died. My heart is still broken, and will be for a long time, as I try to get used to not having her around any more. I cry night and day and the pain in my heart is a torment that I wish God will help me cope with this pain. I have a tortie, and she definitely has tortitude! She was almost taken from me, and I know if I put her down while holding her in the store, I would have lost her!

I think she chose me more than me choosing her. I loved Salsa, and I love all cats, but I do believe that my tortoiseshell is my soul cat. She came along 4 years ago when her owner passed away. She is a big, slow moving cat, quite smart, very docile and friendly. Freyja, just turned 1 this month. She is also a big cat already, not to heavy, just large, with a tail like a Somali Cat. Freyja is very active and plays hard, I think she will remain kittenish for quite a while. Shelby is approximately 5 or 6 years old, and is mainly all black.

But she has mottled coloring throughout her body. It may come from her time in the shelter she was there for 2 years. But she often nips at me my hands, fingers, nose. I think partly by nature and partly due to her surroundings, she was quite aggressive and a skilled fighter, I have never encountered another cat that was so fearless.

In spite of this, she really wanted to be a pet cat and fit into home life very seamlessly. She liked brushing but after 5 minutes, she would bite my fingers. Taz took a playful nip at my finger, the next thing I knew, Kasey flew across my legs and rolled him with a tackle. Apparently, she was the only one allowed to bite my fingers. My son rescued a tiny, feral tort about six weeks ago, and we named her TFK Tiny Feral Kitten until her personality emerged. She has tripled in size and is known as The Demon Sonya. Never have I encountered such violence, savagery, enthusiasm, and love in a cat.

Sounds like Freyja. My lovely tortie died after 12 years 11 months because of cancer. I cant express my sadness. She had my heart more than anything in this life. Take care of your torties well. Life without them is not a real life at all:. Yes very much true izec I know exactly what you mean I feel life is bleak ahead of me I just wish I will sleep away this pain.

They thought she was approx. She is very active and growing, so we have to be careful with the food reduction. Gigi is going in for a routine vet vist on Sept 26th and I might take Freyja in as well, to be weighed on their accurate cat scale. Those that have known Kasey and seen Freyja say either she is channelling Kasey, or is Kasey reincarnated. I do not run these very often, Freyja has not heard them and she is not deaf; she can hear the drawer with the cat treats from the oposite end on the house.

Of all my cats, whenever I took the vacuum into the room they fell over each other getting out. Stirfry would watch and even when I was within a whisker of her face she would not move. Totally watched but had no fear. And yesterday I was vacuuming the basement you would not believe how much cat hair collects in the corners from 7 cats Diver, my Male Tortie was watching but did not move until the nozzle got close.

And even then he just backed up. I know Diver has a hearing problem, so maybe that had something to do with it. The only time I ever saw Stir scared was the 1st year I had taken her in, I carried her outside to let her look around but was afraid she would run off if let down. I walked towards the road to get my mail and when I was about 5 feet away she freaked out. As soon as I walked back towards the house she settled down.

Apparently when she was a feral, something scared her at the road. She was never going to be an outside cat so that did not matter. I had her indoors for about 13 years until she crossed the Bridge. She has not lost that soft fur, perhaps she will stay that way since she has passed the 6 month mark. She is funny in that she has not problems with balance, running, jumping etc. The other day, she was scuffling with Tim in a chair and she fell off, on her back but apparently, this was not a problem, she sprung back up and drove him off the chair.

Another time, she was on the back of the couch and Tim happened to walk under her. I have never seen falling onto an opponent used by a cat. Two days ago, Tim was sitting beside a toy, he was ignoring it. Freyja charged at him and spun around, body slamming him with her hind quarters and she is getting bigger and heavier, so this was very effective. It sent Tim flying and he decided to run off, quickly.

She was left in possession of the toy which she proceeded to bat around. How is Gigi doing with her? However, Freyja interacts more; probably because she has been raised with Gigi. While Freyja is rough with Tim, she and Gigi greet each other and give a greeting rub.

Freyja does not try to engage Gigi in playing. They will also eat from the same bowl. Freyja continues to grow at what seems like an impressive rate. Her spaying is now a distant memory and she is very active. They grow up so fast. That happened with Tabasco — he went from a 3 lb.

CAT today. Bernie noticed that when she picked him up. Freyja is adorable and looking more like Kasey every day. Not having that harsh upbringing she probably never develop that killer instinct but will have Tortitude. In the genes. And like Ingrid said — maybe a cat in size but a kitten in personality. Tabasco and Onyx still have that kitten personality ant both under 2 years old but Arianrhod went from a kitten to Aloof Cat personality before she was 1.

She has left her incision alone and so has not had to wear a cone or body sock, but she has presented some other challenges. Pain med. She also does not understand she need to take it easy, the first day, she was kept in the sun room with the cat tree and other toys removed, but, she still jumped on the furniture and at one time, fell off the back of the couch.

Took her to the vet on Friday June 3rd, she was OK with a bit of swelling, so they said she needed to be more confined. Consequently, the big crate she was in at nights as a small kitten came back out. Now she is incarcerated for her own good. She is doing OK in is, she gets let out periodically with supervision and goes back in when she gets too active. It is going to be a long couple more days. As for the pilling, the vet substituted some pre-loaded syringes with a liquid, oral pain med.

This goes down much easier and the added benefit is she sleeps more, which is good, when caged. She would really like to get out to resume roughing up Tim, but that is on hold for the next 6 or 7 days. Frank and Arian. Then last to get a pill or syringe in the mouth with out head turning so it goes in the ear instead. I hope Freyja is easier. Sounds like Tim gets a short rest. But so glad her surgery is over and the worries are over.

Even when you think you have had success with Freyja, she will spit the pill out some time after. But when we get home and she needs to take some meds I just tell her to open her mouth and she oblige, and swallow whatever pill I put in her mouth. Now she is gone and the grief I feel never abate it even got worst. Freyja continues to grow at a good rate, hard to believe, but she is booked in for spaying on April 2nd. She is looking like a cat now, instead of a kitten, even if she behaves like a kitten.

But if she grows up in the shadow of Kasey,those are big paws to fill. She will be a full grown cat with Tortitude. This will be a very exciting year to see how thing turn out. Tim and Gigi better be ready. Tim, as a typical active orange boy, played rough with her when she was smaller and is now paying the price.

She is playful with him but in an unrelenting, torti way. Now she is closing in on him in size and is more active than he would like, now. She is different with Gigi. She an Gigi approach each other and pass by with a gentle rub on the way by. They play in a bit more quite fashion; either chasing each other in the tunnels or taking turns swatting something on the floor.

More like the Empress is getting on the good side of Freyja before her Tortitude fully blossoms. Then it will be too late. Too late for Tim. She is not fat, the vet described her as long and lean. The vet thinks she might be a big girl as an adult. My Tabasco is getting way bigger than when I got him last Summer as a kitten. Being an orange cat and having big paws I figured he would get big.

Plus having Frankie, Eclipse and Diver show him how to eat he gained weight fast. Diver, my male Tortie is about 13 lbs. She reached a new personal mile stone. She an Tim were scuffling and both reared up on their hind legs. However, this time, she was able to push him over backwards, I think this is just the start of this behavior. The other one was during another round of play fighting. PM is a firm favourite amongst Primary Schools due to its reputation for reading success.

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